The actual author of the prayer was the Rev. George Lyman Locke, in 1882. It was first published in the 1883 draft of the proposed revised Book of Common Prayer, in the service for Thanksgiving Day. It did not make the cut to be included in the revision adopted in 1892, but did make it in the 1928 revision.
source: Marion J. Hackett, Commentary on the American Prayer Book (HarperSanFrancisco 1995), p. 560.
Thanks for bird-dogging these issues, Professor Throckmorton. I read and appreciated the second edition of your book "Getting Jefferson Right." Christian Nationalists so often exagerrate and even at times make things up. While we must individually and collectively do our best during this era, the era of the Christian Church, people are always going to go awry if they try to idealize any regime, or type of regime, in this era as being "Christian," "good," or "just," prior to the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. The former is our vale of tears; the latter, our Blessed Hope.
Needs to be stricken from any transcript of the day’s proceedings; if not, at least noted as a false attribution to Jefferson. So exhausted from GOP getting away with blatant lies!
In matters of religion, I have considered that its free exercise is placed by the constitution independent of the powers of the general government. I have therefore undertaken, on no occasion, to prescribe the religious exercises suited to it; but have left them, as the constitution found them, under the direction and discipline of state or church authorities acknowledged by the several religious societies. Thomas Jefferson Second Inaugural Address March 4, 1805
So, the Liars For Jesus are still at it, with that prayer written for and still used by The Episcopal Church in the United States; a church called by some of the most fervent Liars, "the antichrist," and "children of the devil?" Irony meters across the world, are still exploding.
I wonder if they are still using the same biography of TJ as their source - a book where in fact, the pages often referred to, contain the words of his Inaugural Address, where he is talking about the necessity of teaching Indians, animal husbandry?
We do love our Prayer Book, and think it nice when people outside our denomination appreciate the beauty of some of the prayers found within, but not when they are coopted by the Liars For Jesus, who wouldn't know the truth if it bit them in the butt, and if it did, would kick it away so it didn't bother them again.
As if I needed any more reasons to reject "Moses" as a person qualified and deserving of the Office of Speaker...
Thanks for this. I am at the point that if it comes out of Johnson's mouth, I fact-check before I believe it.
The Christian Nationalist crowd seems to have a blind spot when it comes to that commandment about not bearing false witness.
I came looking for your reaction right after he spoke these lies. That you for showing up!
The actual author of the prayer was the Rev. George Lyman Locke, in 1882. It was first published in the 1883 draft of the proposed revised Book of Common Prayer, in the service for Thanksgiving Day. It did not make the cut to be included in the revision adopted in 1892, but did make it in the 1928 revision.
source: Marion J. Hackett, Commentary on the American Prayer Book (HarperSanFrancisco 1995), p. 560.
Thanks for that information. You can see this book at the Internet Archive. https://archive.org/details/commentaryonamer0000hatc/page/560/mode/2up?q=country
Interesting that some attributed it to George Washington.
He should know better, but he is a pathological liar and the truth is not in him. In Jesus Name Amen!
Thanks for bird-dogging these issues, Professor Throckmorton. I read and appreciated the second edition of your book "Getting Jefferson Right." Christian Nationalists so often exagerrate and even at times make things up. While we must individually and collectively do our best during this era, the era of the Christian Church, people are always going to go awry if they try to idealize any regime, or type of regime, in this era as being "Christian," "good," or "just," prior to the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. The former is our vale of tears; the latter, our Blessed Hope.
Needs to be stricken from any transcript of the day’s proceedings; if not, at least noted as a false attribution to Jefferson. So exhausted from GOP getting away with blatant lies!
I heard this read live, because I follow you, Warren, I knew right away that none of it would be true. I did finally hear it refuted later on MSNBC.
In matters of religion, I have considered that its free exercise is placed by the constitution independent of the powers of the general government. I have therefore undertaken, on no occasion, to prescribe the religious exercises suited to it; but have left them, as the constitution found them, under the direction and discipline of state or church authorities acknowledged by the several religious societies. Thomas Jefferson Second Inaugural Address March 4, 1805
So, the Liars For Jesus are still at it, with that prayer written for and still used by The Episcopal Church in the United States; a church called by some of the most fervent Liars, "the antichrist," and "children of the devil?" Irony meters across the world, are still exploding.
I wonder if they are still using the same biography of TJ as their source - a book where in fact, the pages often referred to, contain the words of his Inaugural Address, where he is talking about the necessity of teaching Indians, animal husbandry?
We do love our Prayer Book, and think it nice when people outside our denomination appreciate the beauty of some of the prayers found within, but not when they are coopted by the Liars For Jesus, who wouldn't know the truth if it bit them in the butt, and if it did, would kick it away so it didn't bother them again.
As if I needed any more reasons to reject "Moses" as a person qualified and deserving of the Office of Speaker...
Brian Kaylor posted today a thorough review of how this prayer written in the late 1800s got attributed to George Washington and later to Jefferson:
https://open.substack.com/pub/publicwitness/p/the-surprising-story-of-how-speaker?r=28e4vx&utm_medium=ios